Comments on: Figuring out how best to “treat” limerence https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence Life, love, and limerence Mon, 10 Jan 2022 05:38:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.9 By: Heidi https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-29587 Mon, 10 Jan 2022 05:38:30 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-29587 🥲]]> I just learned the term limerence and it’s a relief to have a word to describe how I have felt for the last 5-7 years.
We broke up soooo long ago but I can’t ever stop the pain of his memory and the breakup. I refuse to think of the good times because it makes it worse. And I shove aside the pain when it hits me.
I see where people talk about significant others- I cant imagine being able to have a SO, the way I still obsess over him.
Our breakups were always huge ordeals with terrible crying from me and walk outs (because I said to) by him.
I can see him walking out my door 3 different times before the last one, when I literally begged him not to go.
I’m such a mess. I can’t afford therapy. I have literally no friends.
I am starting to feel a little bit less obsessed but I still dream about him almost every night.
Help! 🥲🥲

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By: drlimerence https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-20141 Tue, 09 Mar 2021 10:14:44 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-20141 In reply to Ruby.

It’s not fair, Ruby. You’re right.

It is especially potent for limerents to get to the point of physical intimacy (proving that LO is attracted to you), but then have the budding connection just sort of peter out. That is one of the worst combinations of hope and uncertainty for strengthening limerence. LO wants something casual, but you want more. It does sound as though this is a big trigger for you.

The only way that I’ve figured out to deal with this sort of unfairness, is to accept that it is outside of your control. It’s trite to point it out, but life often is unfair, and so the only practical option is to focus on what you can control and work on improving your life by making it more purposeful. We are all freighted with our own afflictions, and limerence can be a big one, but I’m also a bit more optimistic about integrating it into life in a healthy way rather than seeing it as a disease to be purged.

Getting to know yourself, being honest about what you want, and being strategic about what to spend your time and effort on are the key points. There’s a post here that adds more.

Good luck navigating your way through this.

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By: Ruby https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-20117 Mon, 08 Mar 2021 17:34:22 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-20117 It was just over two years ago I became friends with someone who I met who visited my work, and we kept in contact even though he lived further away. It was like a mentoring type friendship someone who really enjoyed chatting to me for long time -there was an attraction at the start but this person did not consume my thoughts then, I just kept it a distance as he is 19 years younger than me. However It had been a very long time since I had been really attracted to someone and feel anywhere near being intimate.
One time when he did visit half a year later we did get intimate. It was from then on the limerence started, as it did not continue to develop into a relationship. He
It has happened to me before. No limerence before actual physical intimacy, then it doesn’t become a relationship and then that is when I get completely hooked/triggered into a limerent state of obsessive thoughts and the relationship not going anywhere, then friendship feels ruined.
A lot of what I read here people are getting Limerent without physical contact. I am now concerned over even becoming physical with anyone I am attracted too, as can’t handle these limerence episodes. I can’t seem to help it the effect it has on me after physical intimacy.
I am no where near this person where I live, however kept in contact as friends now and again, but find it unbearable to know he has a beautiful girlfriend now who is young, seems so connected, wise and artistic and seems to has everything for him that I don’t. – her being his same age.
I am trying to get on with so many other lovely interests and books, things to study, but find myself reading up about limerence as this person consumes my thoughts no matter how much I have read up about it already and understand the neuroscience and the biochemical processes of my being after intimacy, so understanding intellectually I can keep doing but this thing seems so incontrollable. Even if I want to stay relaxed and be friends with them as I know it is not about them but about what is going on in me. I can own it but unfairly really feels like an infliction it’s not fair to have.

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By: Beth https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-18575 Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:32:57 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-18575 DrL,
What can I say? A perfect article.
“Unwarranted despair” has been my life for almost two years now.
I’d ask my therapist, who I’d had months before I met LO, “what is wrong with me? Why can’t I get past this?”
I’d cry uncontrollably during breaks at work. My eyes fill with tears as I type this.
My LO said I put him on a pedestal. We both knew my reactions/sadness to his rejection were off. He tried to be supportive but he also gave off mixed signals (“I’m on your side of the bed”; “I’m trying to not have feelings for you”)
Untrue about the pedestal…I knew his many faults and issues. I felt that I could deal with them. My therapist described him as “broken.” She said he would drag me down. Like my dad, who had my mom to care for him.
As I’ve said, limerence happened because of the events in my life and meeting this man at the wrong time. Another time, we’d have met and been friends. My regret is that it’s probably not possible now.
I’m grateful that there’s a name for it. If you’re hot for someone for a few weeks/months, or dealing with a fresh breakup, I’d wager that it’s not limerence.
Limerence makes life stale without your LO. It’s a poison that taints every day, all day long.
It’s unbelievably difficult.

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By: drlimerence https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-11752 Thu, 28 May 2020 23:59:17 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-11752 In reply to Simon.

Hi Simon,

Is this a recurrent problem for you – of a very powerful and disruptive limerence reaction when you are romantically interested in someone – or is it specific to this latest LO? I am aware of the general negative tone of the site for single folks, despite limerence being a positive experience under the right circumstances, but it does sound as though you are getting more pain than pleasure as things stand.

As with Scharnhorst, my attitude to SSRI treatment is cautious. I hear from limerents who say they help with stabilising the emotional extremes, but generally people are taking them for depression or anxiety and the effect on limerence is kind of a bystander phenomenon. And I’m sure you know the broader risks as well as anyone.

There are CBT methods to help to break the habits that reinforce limerence, but your situation does sound like LO has triggered something really deep in you. If she is kind of interested, but not all that keen, then it’s understandable that your uncertainty would ratchet up, but if you are free to pursue her, then in principle you could follow up to find out how she really feels. But not if the overarousal of limerence crashes your emotional stability. Have you been able to figure out what she might be triggering in you?

Given what you’ve achieved professionally, it seems a shame to solve this problem by moving job and city. Maybe reframing this as an opportunity to get to grips with your psychological blocks around romantic attraction could help to give a sense of purpose to confronting the source of your vulnerability?

Wishing you all the best.

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By: Miss Anon https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-11739 Thu, 28 May 2020 20:43:29 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-11739 In reply to Simon.

My situation is different in terms of barriers, yes, but I can truly relate to what you have described. I too suffered from many of the feelings you have written about, particularly the feeling of addiction and anxiety, the emotions were so strong at times I felt I was losing my mind.
I just realised I used the past tense on suffered. I still do have great sadness and rumination, but with bouts of no contact over a number of years, eventually my internal reactions have lost their magnitude. Unfortunately it transformed into an ongoing dull ache of ‘missing’ and thoughts of ‘what could have been’. Which makes me worry that if I started being in contact the addiction would return immediately.
I wish you courage and strength in finding a way out of the feelings. I know only too well how it can feel like being trapped. I still feel trapped that I can’t completely let it go, so I have a different phase to work on.

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By: Allie https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-11735 Thu, 28 May 2020 17:48:38 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-11735 Hi Simon. It must be really hard to feel that loss of control when faced with your LO. Have had that myself – it can feel very embarrassing sometimes. Is rumination central to your LE? This is something I have struggled with a lot. And the more my LE brings me down, the more my mind automatically turns to rumination to bring relief to the sad feelings, thus compounding the LO addiction. Have you tried Dr’Ls Emergency Deprogramming course? It includes a wonderful section about mastering rumination with many different techniques to try. This course is worth every penny trust me! The techniques are effective so long as you have the resolve to keep applying them – this has been the hard part for me. Wishing you the best in resolving this.
https://courses.livingwithlimerence.com/courses/emergency-deprogramming-course

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By: Simon https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-11734 Thu, 28 May 2020 14:30:15 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-11734 In reply to Scharnhorst.

Thank you Scharnhorst.

I think the combination of type 1 diabetes and mental health difficulties can be a really toxic mix. I hope your son manages to find some stability. I like to think I am a psychologically minded psychiatrist. I chose it because I have more time with people and I found it more interesting than other specialties. However it is more emotionally draining. And it has plenty of challenges.

I think that it is a really a good point about limerence sometimes being positive. And this website will be biased towards negative experiences. I hoped I could re-frame my thinking and how I reacted in seeing this person but at the moment it seems something unhealthy and way out of control (unconsciously). I have enquired about therapy. I will think about an SSRI.

It’s good to hear you are post limerent. When in contact I certainly felt what I was experiencing could ruin my life. I guess the ongoing intrusive thoughts that just drift and can really consume and occupy my thinking is what I would like to be free of. I think the timeframe is a good point. Cheers.

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By: Scharnhorst https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-11733 Thu, 28 May 2020 14:22:06 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-11733 In reply to Simon.

You know yourself best. If you think SSRIs might help, go for it. Part of every discharge plan for my son involved both a psychiatrist for managing the medication and a therapist for the rest of it.

I’m all for “better living through chemistry” if that’s what it takes. In November, 2018, I wasn’t on a single prescription medication. By June, 2019, I was on 8 of them. You do what you have to.

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By: Simon https://livingwithlimerence.com/figuring-out-how-best-to-treat-limerence/#comment-11732 Thu, 28 May 2020 13:48:13 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1566#comment-11732 Hello.

I’m not sure what your situation or greater good is. I think a lot of comments touch on people already being in a relationships as being a major obstacle.

I would like to say I would love to get in to contact, hang out, be my normal self and get to know the person. However, as soon as I am in contact, my mind and body becomes consumed and I cannot think of anything else, and I cannot do anything about it. I experience crushing chest pains waiting for a text. I feel lost in my mind when I’m at work trying to help other people. Or constantly feeling heart pounding and churning in my stomach and loins. Not being able to sleep and eat properly. And I can’t control or contain it. It immediately returned on getting back in touch. Plus permanent anxious and panic state. Seems very unconscious and like an addiction when I’m in the middle of it.

I feel like it seems wrong when there is not a clear obstacle in the way, apart from some ambivalence on behalf of the girl. I am attracted physically, enjoyed her company on the several dates and times I spent with her prior, and there was some reciprocation, but also ambivalence. I guess my greater good is for my own health and a balanced relationship in the future, certainly in me.

I had reached a crossroads in my life, career and location to live which added a time boundary and existential dilemna when I met and started seeing this person. I was not fully happy and probably had some deeper loneliness and unfulfilment . If anything I was emotionally ready and had space for a relationship. I definitely emotionally attuned and attached way too much early on (I had learnt to do psychodynamic therapy during this). I know I drifted and fantasized as a source of pleasure, whenever I was tired, down etc after first meeting this person. My thoughts in the day became more consumed and connected to the person. I think there are deeper issues that I more mindful of and possibly will learn more with therapy. I think the SSRI might help with my obsessive thoughts and anxiety state as well as time.

Hopefully, that answers your question. It may be not what you expected and now don’t relate to my situation. I could have simply said I feel my gut knows it is right for me to step away. I hope you find clarity in yours.

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