Comments on: Limerence for unhealthy people https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=limerence-for-unhealthy-people Life, love, and limerence Fri, 07 Jul 2023 06:31:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.9 By: finnishgirl https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-43169 Fri, 07 Jul 2023 06:31:13 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-43169 It's been impossible for me to develop a relationship with someone like that. Been mostly out of the dating pool during the past two years to work on myself, but found myself meeting an unhealthy LO early this summer, developed a very strong limerent crush towards him only after a couple of dates and have been obsessive about him since. Luckily was able to communicate openly to him about how I feel (this is the result of the attachment coaching, boy did that feel powerful, just told him straightforward I'm going to fall for him too hard and it will be hurtful!!) and cut contact with him, haven't been so successful in stopping the obsessive thinking though. Then run into this page, thank heavens for that 🙏🏻 I honestly feel like this is a life-changing experience, my attachment coaching has never explained to me this clearly what is happening when I fall for an unhealthy LO so obsessively. Now I can combine the attachment knowledge - which IS useful, too - and this limerence knowledge. I am not over my LO yet, but I can FEEL that this was the last time I let myself plunge into a limerent crush like this. No effin' way am I going to let this happen to myself ever again, it has been such a devastating summer. Especially when I know he is not a healthy object to attach to, somewhat disrespectful and just a bit of a jerk. 🙄 This page has helped me finally understand why my brain develops such a strong obsession to someone that really doesn't deserve it. It is an addiction, and I'm superdetermined to break free from it!]]> I have been in an attachment style -related coaching for quite a while now (a membership, not 1 on 1 coaching though), and even though that has helped me a lot especially with my anxious-leaning side, it is only with the concept of limerence that I’m finally coming to a full understanding of how my dating scenarios have been twisted and what the key problems have been. This post describes it perfectly. I used to always fall limerently for guys, only to always have those relationships or crushes end or turn out to be impossible, and have my heart broken. I then went to this rational mode of trying to only date “the safe guys”, but this has led me to dozens, probably already a hundred dates with guys who I don’t feel attracted to sexually / physically at all, i.e. there’s NO glimmer at all. It has not worked 😑 It’s been impossible for me to develop a relationship with someone like that. Been mostly out of the dating pool during the past two years to work on myself, but found myself meeting an unhealthy LO early this summer, developed a very strong limerent crush towards him only after a couple of dates and have been obsessive about him since. Luckily was able to communicate openly to him about how I feel (this is the result of the attachment coaching, boy did that feel powerful, just told him straightforward I’m going to fall for him too hard and it will be hurtful!!) and cut contact with him, haven’t been so successful in stopping the obsessive thinking though. Then run into this page, thank heavens for that 🙏🏻 I honestly feel like this is a life-changing experience, my attachment coaching has never explained to me this clearly what is happening when I fall for an unhealthy LO so obsessively. Now I can combine the attachment knowledge – which IS useful, too – and this limerence knowledge. I am not over my LO yet, but I can FEEL that this was the last time I let myself plunge into a limerent crush like this. No effin’ way am I going to let this happen to myself ever again, it has been such a devastating summer. Especially when I know he is not a healthy object to attach to, somewhat disrespectful and just a bit of a jerk. 🙄 This page has helped me finally understand why my brain develops such a strong obsession to someone that really doesn’t deserve it. It is an addiction, and I’m superdetermined to break free from it!

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By: Limerent Emeritus https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-32529 Mon, 25 Apr 2022 15:18:05 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-32529 In reply to Sammy.

Well, Sammy,

“Those rosy memories we all share are actually memories from our favorite TV shows. We’ve confused our own childhoods with episodes of “Ozzie and Harriet,” “Father Knows Best,” and “The Brady Bunch.” In real life, Ozzie had a very visible mistress for years, Bud and Kitten on “Father Knows Best” grew up to become major druggies, and Mom on “The Brady Bunch” dated her fifteen-year-old fictional son.” – Cynthia Heimel (2004). “Get Your Tongue Out of My Mouth, I’m Kissing You Good-bye”

You’re not alone.

It’s not surprising we go after unhealthy people. Considering the dichotomy between what we lived with and what we saw on TV, it’s probably more surprising when we don’t.

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By: Nancy https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-32527 Mon, 25 Apr 2022 14:56:41 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-32527 Such an insightful post. After being burned a few times as a limerent, I definitely took the “executive approach” to choosing a husband. I decided that my heart couldn’t be trusted, and chose someone I thought was stable, reliable, etc. Many times it occurred to me that I had essentially created an arranged marriage for myself. And I don’t recommend it. The relationship definitely needed more juice. We stayed together for many years and had four great kids; but not six months had passed before I found myself limerent for someone else again. (Luckily, limerence doesn’t strike me that often.)
The thing I wasn’t capable of seeing at the time was that my husband was every bit as narcissistic as some of my LOs. I had no sense of my own value, and my husband proceeded to tear down what little self esteem I had. One of my main tasks in life became refusing to see myself through my husband’s eyes. (“Or, on the other hand, maybe this is just real life,” I would think. “Maybe I really am overly sensitive, and too idealistic about love.”) Now that I’m out of that marriage, it’s shocking to realize how emotionally abusive the situation became, and how harmful for our children.
Not that I’m cured now, or I wouldn’t be here. Currently limerent for a married man. It might even be mutual, but of course it’s hopeless. He’s a customer, and I can’t avoid him without quitting my job, so I just do my best to roll with and enjoy our interactions, without trying to cling or feel entitled and resentful.

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By: Dr L https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-31092 Fri, 04 Mar 2022 00:21:52 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-31092 In reply to Reader.

That is a great analogy, Reader.

Trying to rescue a chaotic LO is… inviting chaos into your life.

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By: Dr L https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-31091 Thu, 03 Mar 2022 17:15:22 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-31091 In reply to Marky T..

The dynamic for comments has definitely changed as the site has matured. It’s trying to do a lot of things at once nowadays, with newcomers and old hands having different needs.

Time for a reorganisation, I agree.

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By: Marky T. https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-31090 Thu, 03 Mar 2022 16:16:32 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-31090 Maybe Dr. L should start eliminating some offtopic comments, this thread has absolutely no connection with the article or limerence in general.

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By: Sammy https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-30873 Fri, 25 Feb 2022 06:34:12 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-30873 ]]> In reply to Limerent Emeritus.

“Lost In Space” was a campy TV series in the mid-60s. Where the original “Star Trek” was a serious, LIS was as campy as they come.”

@Limerent Emeritus.

I wasn’t around in the mid-60s. However, my sisters and I grew up on LIS, thanks to the show coming out on video in the 90s and my mother not letting us watch a lot of actual TV…

Funnily enough, I never thought of LIS as “campy” while I was actually watching it. Although so much culture from that period does seem campy e.g. Bewitched, I Dream of Genie, The Brady Bunch. Even the movie “The Sound of Music” seems dreadfully campy to me as an adult. Although, as a child, I lapped it up as some marvellous insight in the real world of adult emotional relationships. (I think even some of the actors on TSOM thought the storyline was too syrupy-sweet).

Is it any wonder my “emotional barometer” is way off, when I spent my entire childhood consuming media that was either campy or sentimental, and mistaking both for real life? Oh yes, I took my television very seriously as a boy. No one explained to me that these idealised depictions of romantic love/suburban family life/family life on a hostile planet with a talking robot in tow weren’t real. 😜

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By: Limerent Emeritus https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-30660 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 14:58:46 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-30660 In reply to Limerent Emeritus.

Link to Fractured Fairy Tales:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT2QpCoUWzA&list=PLLhOnau-tupR5l-OSXT1BHzAy_qV8ww-6

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By: Limerent Emeritus https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-30659 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 14:55:01 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-30659 Clip of the Blog: “Lost In Space” (1965-1968)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0ochx16Dg

Going tangential…

There was a lot of subtlety in 60s TV.

“Lost In Space” was a campy TV series in the mid-60s. Where the original “Star Trek” was a serious, LIS was as campy as they come. Kind of like the “Batman” TV (1966-1968). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qddas1Gwmys

“Rocky an Bullwinkle” (1959) had an undercurrent of adult themes, one of which was the Cold War. Each show consisted of 4 cartoons, 2 R&B, 1 Fractured Fairy Tales, and 1 Peabody and Sherman. FF was my favorite, which helps explain my distorted recollection of many classic fairy tales. https://www.youtube.com/watch?

v=LT2QpCoUWzA&list=PLJhawgENOx2x5HHGS2L_O7b4SBq2xKKyp was chosen for obvious reasons.

True story:

One time, my parents left me with a friend of the family. Along with my parents, they were one of the “It” couples of the neighborhood. I loved going to their house because they had a pool with a pirate chest in the deep end and the only color TV in the neighborhood.

I don’t remember where his wife and my parents were. They didn’t have kids so he asked what I normally did in the early evening. I told him that I watched cartoons. He said then we’d watch cartoons. Fridays were R&B night so that’s what we watched.

After it was over, he said, “That show is not for children.” I told yes it was and he said, “No, it’s not.”

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By: Reader https://livingwithlimerence.com/limerence-for-unhealthy-people/#comment-30648 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 11:47:52 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=2630#comment-30648 The hazmat picture/unhealthy LOs as poison is a good description of things. Another metaphor I have thought of often relates to the deadly combination of an unhealthy LO and a limerent with rescuer syndrome, something I struggle with myself. The limerent thinks they are reaching down into a well to help save the LO stuck below, but in reality what happens is the LO will bring the limerent to fall spectacularly down the well with them, and the ascent out is pure hell. Better to just keep the outstretched hand away…

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