Comments on: Risk taking https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=risk-taking Life, love, and limerence Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:08:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.9 By: B https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-15007 Sat, 15 Aug 2020 16:08:23 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-15007 File this one under “risk taking” I suppose:
I very recently hosted a little get-together at my home with work colleagues. Our annual company event was cancelled due to Covid and I’m in management so I figured I would have a small scale and very relaxed dinner party instead and invite some, but not all, of the employees. Basically only the cool crowd, including LO of course. And her SO. If I’m being honest with myself, the entire thing was my idea only so I could be at a social gathering with LO outside the office, and in my home no less. But I tried to lie to myself that I was doing something noble for the employees and office morale.
I am reminded of my glimmer experience, which was at a similar social event where I first saw LO outside of the office setting. Was I trying to recreate this? Trying to get that high again?
But the risks involved did not escape me. Having LO, her SO, me, and my SO in such close quarters, telling stories etc was fraught with danger. (I have disclosed to LO and know the attraction is mutual). A little slip up and someone could suspect something. Was I subconsciously wanting that? For the limerence to be discovered? I’ve read from others how a SO’s discovery of a crush can be very effective at killing the LE. Limerence thrives in the hidden, secret places. But when a light is shined on it, I can see how it would quickly die. Maybe I wanted that to happen. Maybe I wanted to get to know her SO better (only met him once previously). Maybe the more I saw them together and spent time with them, the more I would respect their marriage and stop trying to interfere.
Alas, it was a good time and there were no uncomfortable moments. But now I’m thinking about LO constantly and have suffered a setback I’m afraid. I have no one to blame but myself.

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By: Matt https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13598 Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:25:55 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13598 In reply to Sophie.

Ooooh!! I’m a little late to this forum and no idea what your statuses were.

I have my own “alternate universe” fantasies with LO3.

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By: Allie https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13596 Sat, 18 Jul 2020 19:51:27 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13596 In reply to B.

I really relate to your post B. I feel like I have been asleep for the last 12 years and my LE has awoken me. I now want to take a few risks and live life more fully while I still can. On top of that, the idea of living my life out without ever consummating real desire again is a particularly bitter pill to swallow.
“I would rather live with the regret of having made bad decisions in my LE (and picking up the pieces from that) as opposed to the regret of coming to the end of my life and realizing I had just played it safe all those years”
Oh yes…I so agree with this. I just wish I had had the opportunity to make those mistakes!

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By: Sophie https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13587 Sat, 18 Jul 2020 14:54:49 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13587 In reply to Matt.

Thanks for sharing your views on that @Matt.

In an alternate universe where we were both single, I certainly would have just seen where it went. In the real world where we were both married with children (I’ve heard on the grapevine he’s getting divorced, but NC means I don’t know for sure) then I just had to believe he wouldn’t be interested and that my marriage is worth more.
I can’t friend him or message him on Facebook as he’s blocked me – at my own request! That’s the only way I’ve managed over 6months NC! I did get to know him rather well as we’ve worked together in the past, both in the time leading up to and including the LE, and also a secondment 8 years beforehand (in fact I really disliked him then, he had changed a lot in the intervening years – parenthood had a large part to play in that I suspect). I can still easily list of his faults as well as his good points.

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By: Mia https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13504 Fri, 17 Jul 2020 11:14:23 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13504 In reply to Mia.

And to add Valentine, i have not seen LO in 5 months and since I started processing (and sleeping after 8 months of not sleeping) i have vivid dreams about LO almost every night, leaving me missing him like crazy when I wake up. But i know its part of the process, there is nothing I can do about it execpt, let myself cry and have compassion with myself that i miss him so bad.

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By: Mia https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13501 Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:31:59 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13501 In reply to Valentine.

HI Valentine, its perfectly normal. unfortunately we can not decide when feelings “should be over”. Thats the thing with grief, it does what it does and on its own time. You can not force yourself to be over LO. Grief takes time and your body will organise that. And feelings are never weird or wrong. They are just feelings.
Please dont be dissapointed with yourself, your body is healing through grief and it means you have a functioning body. 4 months is not that long to greef someone and to get fully out of an addiction. I think I might still feel sadness when finding out LO is taken in 30 years for all I know! And i know I will struggle with my feelings and addiction prabably forever, and thats fine, doest mean that i will not be okay eventually. Give it time, you seems to be really on the good track.

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By: Benjamin https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13500 Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:02:56 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13500 In reply to Valentine.

Hi Valentine,
I honestly don’t think it’s weird at all. Especially if you two had something more than a friendship. But even if it was entirely one-sided, I don’t see it as weird. I mean, I consider myself a guy for whom LOs having SOs acts as a pretty good antidote for limerence and I still need a couple of months to fully recover, more so when you can’t cut LO entirely of your life and have to deal with periodic reminders of their relationship from time to time.

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By: Valentine https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13499 Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:39:28 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13499 Hi!

Yesterday my best friend had a casual meeting with my LO, because my LO still had some stuff he borrowed from me (we are friends, but I haven’t seen him in more than four months). He bought bottels of wine for both of us, because we both moved to another house. I feel really guilty about that bottle of wine, because I do not want to do anything with him and now I am feeling like I have to recipocrate his gesture. He also mentioned his girlfriend yesterday and I noticed that it still makes me sad to hear that their relationship isn’t over. I thought I was really getting over the limerence, since I can restrain myself from looking for contact and since I am no longer waiting for his texts. So I am really disappointed in myself that this still has an impact on me. Is this normal or should I be over him after four and a half months of low contact?

Kind regards,

Valentine

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By: B https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13455 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:07:47 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13455 In reply to Vicarious Limerent.

“Some of what is driving this for me is the idea that I want to return to being who I truly am, not the person my wife wants me to be.”

One of the things I think drew me to LO was that she reminded me of an earlier, younger version of myself. There are just certain things about her that I recognize from my past. It’s like she represents a version of myself that I lost along the way as I grew into a responsible adult. Strangely, I found myself wanting to emulate her and be like her. I think my subconscious confused this with wanting to be WITH her.
As I have slowly begun to emerge from my LE, I am recognizing this more and more. In a way, I am grateful for this LE, as I’m starting to see that it helped me identify something about myself that I am missing and should return to. But in my fog, I somehow mistook that for wanting her as a person, rather than fix things deep inside of me.

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By: Vicarious Limerent https://livingwithlimerence.com/risk-taking/#comment-13452 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:51:48 +0000 https://livingwithlimerence.com/?p=1941#comment-13452 In reply to B.

I can completely relate, B. I am in midlife myself and for me the midlife crisis is very real. Somehow the thought that I only have a short time left as a relatively young man is driving me to rethink everything. I am also dreading “The Big 5-0,” which seems so ominous. I too am fed up with my job and career, and have been in a career reinvention phase for years. I also really want more fun in my life — true fun, not some reasonable facsimile thereof. My marriage and family life are also boring me to tears, I hardly ever see my friends and there is a ton of fighting going on at home. The pandemic hasn’t helped matters either because I had met some new friends just before COVID-19 hit, and I wasn’t able to see them for months as a result.

Some of what is driving this for me is the idea that I want to return to being who I truly am, not the person my wife wants me to be. This includes activities and interests I want to pursue and a deep desire to make changes in my life relating to my weight, fitness, career, finances and social life. Obviously my interest in my LO told me something as well, but I believe I can keep myself busy with other things to try to distract me from her at least to some extent, at least until I can try to sort out my marriage. In many ways, I would love to buy a fancy sports car (not that I could afford one) and go chasing after my LO as part of a classic midlife crisis reinvention, but I know that would be stupid and irrational. I have to focus on less destructive pursuits to bring me happiness. For me, it is exercise, night life, courses, home improvements, new friends and learning in general. I am even thinking about taking up art, music lessons and developing fluency in a second language. Dr. L’s assertion that purposeful living is one of the best antidotes to limerence is very true. It helps a great deal, even if we still ruminate and fantasize at times and some of our pursuits may be at least partially designed to impress our LOs.

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